In my last post, I discussed how the cost of ammunition is influencing my shooting options. So today I would like present one of my solutions to this problem.
I attended the Nation's Gun Show in Chantilly, VA this past weekend. I went with the specific intent of bringing a new addition home. I was not disappointed. Since this seems to be a time for like-minded things, here is my newest addition to the collection:

I'm not as lucky as Kevin since I cannot order from the CMP. I meet all of their other requirements except for US citizenship. But despite this, I think I managed just fine.
My newest addition is an Inland M1 Carbine mounted in a reproduction paratrooper stock. It was made in early 1944. The bolt shows the most wear minus most of its bluing but the rest of the gun is in great condition. Bore is shiny and rifling looks sharp.
I choose the M1 Carbine for mainly practical reasons. The two big ones being compactness and cost to feed.
As I mentioned in my previous post, shooting costs are getting high. The most common caliber I shoot is .223 and that is getting pricey. Especially at retail prices. Prices on it have literally doubled in the past two years. I can remember $98 for 500 rounds in 2006.
The cheapest centerfire rifle caliber to shoot is 7.62x39mm. But I have only one gun chambered in that caliber and I've got some minor repair work to do to it to fix a couple of issues with it. The only gun I ever regret selling is my WASR-10. I didn't like it from a shooting perspective but one should never part with a gun unless they have to. I didn't have to.
So I found myself looking at the ammo tables at the last gun show running mental calculations in my head along the lines of "What can I find in the price range up to $600 that will be cheaper to shoot than an AR-15?".
I was noticing that .30 Carbine was pretty inexpensive at $15-$17 a box for 50. Hmm, not too bad. 30-34 cents per round. So I began looking at M1 Carbines scattered around the show found several examples in the $400-$550 range. I'm starting to like what I see. So when I got home, I began to do research.
As much fun as the AR-15 pattern rifles are, they can get large and loud. Despite my attempts, my fiancee has refused to shoot any of them. Their bark is worse than their bite but to listen to an AR-15 being fired, you'd be convinced it was a small cannon. Especially indoors. Thus she feels it would kick hard and hurt her. Best I've been able to do is the .22LR upper.
As a result, I'm thinking a smaller rifle that looks more traditional and less threatening might get my fiancee behind the trigger. We'll see. Guns, regardless of shape, don't move her in any way but the smaller it is, the more likely it is she wil shoot it.
The M1 Carbine fits that bill. If there was ever a TEOTWAKI scenario, I think I might be able to hand her the M1 Carbine and a .22 pistol and she'd take them. I'd be humping the heavy firepower.
Plus, the M1 Carbine is a beautiful gun. I think we've lost something in our modern age of lightweight, soldier-proof battle rifles. Modern rifles are mean-looking, lightweight, reliable, accurate, easy to maintain without tools, easy to clean (save for the M4/M16/AR) and so on. The sacrifice of wood for plastic and reducing the action workings to the minimum needed is meant to achieve those goals and build for strength. Aesthetics are secondary.
John Garand did the world a favor. The operating mechanism of the M1 Garand is complex by our current standards. It is fine engineering. It requires special skills to assemble an M1 action. Soldiers didn't take apart their M1s. It's heavy. But, god, it is mechanically beautiful! Parts slide and shift and move magically together in choreographed precision. Rotate, rise, slide and fall. All at once. It was meant to solve the practical problem of building a reliable semi-automatic action for a high-powered round that could function under combat conditions. So it was overengineered, needed a lot of parts but it works perfectly.
So when the US Army needed a small carbine for self-defense and support use, the design that ultimately won used a scaled-down M1 Garand action. There are many differences between the M1 Garand and the M1 Carbine but they both share basic Garand's action design. It helped sell the Carbine to the Army.
They went and built six million of them. The M1 Carbine is one of the most heavily produced combat firearms in history. And with the exception of its stock, it pointed the way for future combat arms because it was semi-automatic*, lightweight at 5.2 pounds and magazine-fed. For the time, it is any wonder that combat troops loved this weapon?
And for us, the M1 family represents one of the very few cases where civilians can acquire true, unmodified military weapons that are not bolt-action in operation and own them without restriction and as the soldiers would have carried them.
If you buy a USGI M1 carbine, you know that weapon was carried by someone in combat. You may not know where it served or who carried it, but you can be certain it was in the fight somewhere.
I like surplus rifles. So when I decided I wanted an M1 Carbine, it was only an issue of which one and how much.
It's funny how things work out. When I walked into the show, I went looking for the guy that was selling the M1 Carbines I was drooling over. But I couldn't find the vendor. I foolishly assumed he would be in the same location as the previous shows. Many regular vendors get the same spots every time at a show to attract business. I know who's new at the show by looking at who is where. I assumed the vendor would be in roughly the same place.
I wanted this vendor because he had an IBM M1 Carbine for $700. Given my profession, that would be a cool addition to the collection. But I couldn't find him. Figuring he had skipped the show, I began to power-wander to find M1s and compare prices.
Ever been in a situation where you just look down and suddenly you feel it? That instant connection between gun and shooter that says "You're mine!". That's what happened here. The dealer I got my M1 from had two. An Underwood in a cracked stock and an Inland in an reproduction paratrooper stock. Both at excellent prices. So when the dealer asked me if he could help me, my response was simply, "I'll take it!".
After getting the whole "Will you sell to a Marylander?" crap out of the way, I filled out the paperwork and told the dealer I'd be back in an hour while it cleared. I always get delayed so it was a good time to go shopping for goodies! I did.
3 30 round magazines, 6 15 round magazines, 3 magazine pouches, bayonet, 2 bandolier repack kits, a regular stock and all the hardware to fit it, sling, one technical manual, one owner's manual and a reproduction USGI carrying case later, I returned to pick up my rifle. The irony: For the first time in my life, I was approved without delay. Figures.
Then I bought 550 rounds of ammunition and left a happy man. The following day, I found the vendor that had the M1 Carbines. Turns out he was two tables over from the vendor I had bought mine from. So he lost an M1 Carbine sale but he had some nice restored Springfield M1 Garands. Hmm, wedding present?
I think this is going to be a nice little shooter. The small size of the rifle makes it easy to grab for a range session and it is easy to prep magazines and stripper clips in a hurry. And if it doesn't have a kick or a loud bark, I think it would be really cool to see my fiancee bring it to her shoulder and fire off a magazine. My only fear is, if she does, she might decide to make the rifle "hers". She's already claimed my P22 so it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I hope you like it. I'll have a range report as soon as I get it out.
* The original design specifications asked for full-auto capability but it was dropped because of control and ammo consumption issues during testing. The belief that a full-auto weapon was better in battle than a semi-auto was commonly held at the time. Practical reality made it clear that it wasn't an advantage and the Army, in a rare bout of wisdom, allowed the full-auto requirement to be removed. The Army then forgot that lesson and was force to relearn with the M14 and again with the M16.
I attended the Nation's Gun Show in Chantilly, VA this past weekend. I went with the specific intent of bringing a new addition home. I was not disappointed. Since this seems to be a time for like-minded things, here is my newest addition to the collection:
I'm not as lucky as Kevin since I cannot order from the CMP. I meet all of their other requirements except for US citizenship. But despite this, I think I managed just fine.
My newest addition is an Inland M1 Carbine mounted in a reproduction paratrooper stock. It was made in early 1944. The bolt shows the most wear minus most of its bluing but the rest of the gun is in great condition. Bore is shiny and rifling looks sharp.
I choose the M1 Carbine for mainly practical reasons. The two big ones being compactness and cost to feed.
As I mentioned in my previous post, shooting costs are getting high. The most common caliber I shoot is .223 and that is getting pricey. Especially at retail prices. Prices on it have literally doubled in the past two years. I can remember $98 for 500 rounds in 2006.
The cheapest centerfire rifle caliber to shoot is 7.62x39mm. But I have only one gun chambered in that caliber and I've got some minor repair work to do to it to fix a couple of issues with it. The only gun I ever regret selling is my WASR-10. I didn't like it from a shooting perspective but one should never part with a gun unless they have to. I didn't have to.
So I found myself looking at the ammo tables at the last gun show running mental calculations in my head along the lines of "What can I find in the price range up to $600 that will be cheaper to shoot than an AR-15?".
I was noticing that .30 Carbine was pretty inexpensive at $15-$17 a box for 50. Hmm, not too bad. 30-34 cents per round. So I began looking at M1 Carbines scattered around the show found several examples in the $400-$550 range. I'm starting to like what I see. So when I got home, I began to do research.
As much fun as the AR-15 pattern rifles are, they can get large and loud. Despite my attempts, my fiancee has refused to shoot any of them. Their bark is worse than their bite but to listen to an AR-15 being fired, you'd be convinced it was a small cannon. Especially indoors. Thus she feels it would kick hard and hurt her. Best I've been able to do is the .22LR upper.
As a result, I'm thinking a smaller rifle that looks more traditional and less threatening might get my fiancee behind the trigger. We'll see. Guns, regardless of shape, don't move her in any way but the smaller it is, the more likely it is she wil shoot it.
The M1 Carbine fits that bill. If there was ever a TEOTWAKI scenario, I think I might be able to hand her the M1 Carbine and a .22 pistol and she'd take them. I'd be humping the heavy firepower.
Plus, the M1 Carbine is a beautiful gun. I think we've lost something in our modern age of lightweight, soldier-proof battle rifles. Modern rifles are mean-looking, lightweight, reliable, accurate, easy to maintain without tools, easy to clean (save for the M4/M16/AR) and so on. The sacrifice of wood for plastic and reducing the action workings to the minimum needed is meant to achieve those goals and build for strength. Aesthetics are secondary.
John Garand did the world a favor. The operating mechanism of the M1 Garand is complex by our current standards. It is fine engineering. It requires special skills to assemble an M1 action. Soldiers didn't take apart their M1s. It's heavy. But, god, it is mechanically beautiful! Parts slide and shift and move magically together in choreographed precision. Rotate, rise, slide and fall. All at once. It was meant to solve the practical problem of building a reliable semi-automatic action for a high-powered round that could function under combat conditions. So it was overengineered, needed a lot of parts but it works perfectly.
So when the US Army needed a small carbine for self-defense and support use, the design that ultimately won used a scaled-down M1 Garand action. There are many differences between the M1 Garand and the M1 Carbine but they both share basic Garand's action design. It helped sell the Carbine to the Army.
They went and built six million of them. The M1 Carbine is one of the most heavily produced combat firearms in history. And with the exception of its stock, it pointed the way for future combat arms because it was semi-automatic*, lightweight at 5.2 pounds and magazine-fed. For the time, it is any wonder that combat troops loved this weapon?
And for us, the M1 family represents one of the very few cases where civilians can acquire true, unmodified military weapons that are not bolt-action in operation and own them without restriction and as the soldiers would have carried them.
If you buy a USGI M1 carbine, you know that weapon was carried by someone in combat. You may not know where it served or who carried it, but you can be certain it was in the fight somewhere.
I like surplus rifles. So when I decided I wanted an M1 Carbine, it was only an issue of which one and how much.
It's funny how things work out. When I walked into the show, I went looking for the guy that was selling the M1 Carbines I was drooling over. But I couldn't find the vendor. I foolishly assumed he would be in the same location as the previous shows. Many regular vendors get the same spots every time at a show to attract business. I know who's new at the show by looking at who is where. I assumed the vendor would be in roughly the same place.
I wanted this vendor because he had an IBM M1 Carbine for $700. Given my profession, that would be a cool addition to the collection. But I couldn't find him. Figuring he had skipped the show, I began to power-wander to find M1s and compare prices.
Ever been in a situation where you just look down and suddenly you feel it? That instant connection between gun and shooter that says "You're mine!". That's what happened here. The dealer I got my M1 from had two. An Underwood in a cracked stock and an Inland in an reproduction paratrooper stock. Both at excellent prices. So when the dealer asked me if he could help me, my response was simply, "I'll take it!".
After getting the whole "Will you sell to a Marylander?" crap out of the way, I filled out the paperwork and told the dealer I'd be back in an hour while it cleared. I always get delayed so it was a good time to go shopping for goodies! I did.
3 30 round magazines, 6 15 round magazines, 3 magazine pouches, bayonet, 2 bandolier repack kits, a regular stock and all the hardware to fit it, sling, one technical manual, one owner's manual and a reproduction USGI carrying case later, I returned to pick up my rifle. The irony: For the first time in my life, I was approved without delay. Figures.
Then I bought 550 rounds of ammunition and left a happy man. The following day, I found the vendor that had the M1 Carbines. Turns out he was two tables over from the vendor I had bought mine from. So he lost an M1 Carbine sale but he had some nice restored Springfield M1 Garands. Hmm, wedding present?
I think this is going to be a nice little shooter. The small size of the rifle makes it easy to grab for a range session and it is easy to prep magazines and stripper clips in a hurry. And if it doesn't have a kick or a loud bark, I think it would be really cool to see my fiancee bring it to her shoulder and fire off a magazine. My only fear is, if she does, she might decide to make the rifle "hers". She's already claimed my P22 so it isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I hope you like it. I'll have a range report as soon as I get it out.
* The original design specifications asked for full-auto capability but it was dropped because of control and ammo consumption issues during testing. The belief that a full-auto weapon was better in battle than a semi-auto was commonly held at the time. Practical reality made it clear that it wasn't an advantage and the Army, in a rare bout of wisdom, allowed the full-auto requirement to be removed. The Army then forgot that lesson and was force to relearn with the M14 and again with the M16.
